Three Generations of George Loebs

I can describe George Loebs in two different ways.  First, he could be called the husband of my 2nd great aunt (great great aunt).  Secondly, he could also be called the father-in-law of my paternal grandmother.  A few other posts have already been written about George Loebs.

So Close, Yet So Far

The Loebs-Schmidt Connection

Cherokee Uprising

Since so much has already been written about George Loebs, I do not want to spend much time repeating information that has already been shared.  I do have two different reasons for once again looking at this family.

  1.  I want to take a look at the attempt to pass along the name, George Loebs, in this family.
  2.  I want to discuss some of the policies that churches/pastors had with regard to whether they will baptize, marry, and bury people.

This story began with my discovery of another George Loebs who was born on this day in 1869, which also happens to be 150 years ago today.  However, before I get to his story, let me backtrack to take a little closer look at his father, George Loebs.

George Loebs was born on October 13, 1837 in Nuβdorf, Germany.  I found his baptism record on

George Loebs baptism record Nusdorf Germany
George Loebs baptism record – Nuβdorf, Germany

Here is a transcript of that baptism record showing the important information.

George Loebs baptism record Germany

George Loebs traveled to America in 1861, arriving on June 10th.  He can be found on the passenger list of the ship, Feelton.

George Loebs Feelton passenger list June 1861
George Loebs – Feelton passenger list 1861

We can find George in an 1867 city directory for St. Louis, Missouri.

George Loebs 1867 St. Louis city directory
George Loebs – 1867 St. Louis city directory

It was in 1867 that George Loebs and Ferdinand Herold (his name is misspelled above) joined forces and established the Cherokee Brewery.

One year later, George would marry Maria Magdalena Schmidt.  She was the daughter of Georg Joachim and Marie (Saalfeld) Schmidt (my great great grandparents).  Magdalena was baptized at Trinity Lutheran Church in Altenburg, Missouri.  Below is her baptism record.

Maria Magdalena Schmidt baptism record Trinity Altenburg MO
Maria Magdalena Schmidt baptism record – Trinity, Altenburg, MO

Magdalena can be found in the 1850 and 1860 censuses for Brazeau Township in Perry County.  I have no idea how Magdalena would manage to meet George Loebs who was living in St. Louis, but it happened somehow.  These two were married in St. Louis.  Here is a civil record for that marriage.

George Loebs Magdalena Schmidt marriage
Loebs/Schmidt marriage record – St. Louis, MO

In a Loebs family binder that we have in our museum, it includes the following information about this wedding.

Loebs Schmidt marriage information Loebs book

As you can see from this record, George’s membership in an Odd Fellows Lodge was a problem.  The two most likely places for their marriage would have been Holy Cross Lutheran Church in St. Louis or Trinity Lutheran Church in Altenburg.  Apparently, one of those Lutheran churches disapproved of this marriage taking place at their location because of George’s lodge membership.

It was about one year after their marriage that this couple had their first child and named him George.  He was born on October 26, 1869 in St. Louis.  George was baptized at Holy Cross Lutheran Church.  We cannot look at his baptism record, but in a book we have in our research library, it lists the names of people who were baptized, confirmed, married, and buried at that church.  Here is a list of Loebs children that can be found in that book.

Loeb baptism records Holy Cross St. Louis MO
Loebs baptisms – Holy Cross, St. Louis, MO

George and Magdalena had 5 children, 4 of which were baptized at Holy Cross.  It’s a mystery to me the location of the baptism of their last child, Bertha Loebs.

This first child did not even live two months.  He died on December 11th.  However, a death record is not found in the Holy Cross book.  In fact, there are no deaths recorded for anyone with the surname Loebs in that book.  There are also no burials in the Concordia Cemetery which is the cemetery for members of Holy Cross and Old Trinity Lutheran Churches.  I suspect the infant, George, was buried at St. Matthew Cemetery, but he is not found there on  Quite often, infants’ graves do not show up on that website.

After a girl was born into this family, another son was born in January of 1872.  That child was also named George….George Conrad Phillip Loebs.  It looks to me like the Loebs parents wanted to have a child carry the name George Loebs into the next generation.  The death of the first George led to the naming of yet another George Loebs.  The problem with that was the fact that the second George Loebs only lived 10 years and died in 1882.  In his case, this George Loebs can be found buried in the St. Matthew Cemetery.

George Conrad Loebs gravestone St. Matthew St. Louis MO
George C.P. Loebs gravestone – St. Matthew, St. Louis, MO

George and Magdalena stopped having children in 1878, so there was no George Loebs to live to adulthood in that generation, even though two babies had been given that name.  However, that name would show up again in this family tree.  Here is a photo of George and Magdalena Loebs.

George and Marie Loebs
George and Marie Magdalena Loebs

The Loebs family moved to Perry County in 1883, but George died just two years later in 1885 in Wittenberg.  His death record can be found in some St. Louis records, even though the doctor who is listed on that form was Dr. E.E. Buenger of Altenburg.  There is no church death record in Perry County, and he was buried in St. Matthew Cemetery in St. Louis.

Another son, Henry Loebs, who had been born in 1873 married Bertha Mueller in Perry County in 1901.  This couple had two children.  Their first child was a girl named Clara, but when they had a son in 1904, they named that child George, so we have a George Loebs who was the grandson of the original George Loebs.  Then in 1905, not long before this baby’s first birthday, his father died.  Henry Loebs was buried in the St. Paul’s Lutheran Cemetery in Wittenberg.  St. Paul’s had just begun in 1903, and the Loebs family book says Henry was the first to be buried in that congregation’s cemetery.  However, a more accurate statement would be that he was the first adult to be buried there.  There were a few children buried in that cemetery earlier.  Here is a photo of Henry and Bertha Loebs.

Henry Loebs Bertha wedding
Loebs/Mueller wedding

Bertha (Mueller) Loebs would later marry Emanuel Schmidt in 1907.  So that was another Loebs/Schmidt marriage found in this family tree.  Bertha and Emanuel would go on to have several little Schmidt’s, one of which was my father.

The latest George Loebs would marry Frieda Mueller (from a different Mueller clan).  His family would have four children, all boys….Marvin, Norman, Norbert, and Herbert.  There was not another George Loebs in this group, except the oldest, Marvin, had the middle name, George.  Here is a photo of George and Frieda’s family when they still lived in Perry County.

George Loebs family Perry County
George and Frieda Loebs family – L to R: Marvin, Norman, Norbert, and Herbert

There have been no more people in this Loebs family to be named George.  I do know that I have fond memories of my Uncle George Loebs (actually a half-uncle).  He was such a kind man, and his wife, Frieda, was a real sweetheart.

I would like to finish by expressing some of my thoughts about Lutheran doctrine and practice.  The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod has always been opposed to fraternal lodges like the Odd Fellows.  I understand why that is, and I support that opposition.  In this story, we see how an LCMS church was willing to baptize children, but not to marry them or bury them.  Lutheran doctrine, going all the way back to Martin Luther, has said that baptism is entirely the work of the Holy Spirit.  I do not know an LCMS pastor who would refuse to baptize a person in any circumstance.  In the case of marrying, I understand that is an event which is a matter of choice, and I understand the need for a church to make determinations about whether a marriage will be allowed in a congregation or not.  Burials are similar to marriages in that people make decisions how to live their lives, and churches may have to determine that someone may not be allowed to have a funeral in a church or be buried in a church’s cemetery.  However, in such a case as young George Loebs who died in 1869, I have a hard time understanding why that Lutheran church would not bury him in their cemetery or include him in their church death records.  To me, it seems like a situation where you are punishing a baby for the sins of the father even before they are very capable of making their own decisions.  But that’s me.  You may have a different view.

One final note:  Much of the information I used today was the result of the research done by Norbert Loebs on this family.  I want to express my thanks to my first half-cousin for his efforts.



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